The Des Moines Tea Party

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The federal government is now telling American citizens to stay out of three southern Arizona counties. It is too dangerous because of armed smugglers from Mexico.

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu: Quite frankly I’m telling you as a sheriff that we don’t control that part of the county. My county is larger than the state of Connecticut and we need support from the federal government. It’s their job to secure the border and they haven’t done it. In fact President Obama suspended the construction of the fence.

FOX News reporter: Would you like to see some of the president’s outrage about the oil spill and some of the butt-kicking that he’s talked about doing applied there on the border as well?

Sheriff Paul Babeu: Even with that, you say one thing and then you’re out at a fundraiser in California and you don’t go to the funeral of the people who died in the explosion. You know its one thing to say something slick on television in a ten second soundbite but we need action. And, it’s shameful that we as the most powerful nation on earth can win wars and liberate countries throughout history yet we can’t even secure our own border."

see the video from FOX news for yourself: http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/video-obama-gives-back-major-strip-of-az-to-mexico/

IF EACH STATE HAD THEIR OWN MILITIA WOULD THIS BE TAKING PLACE?  FOLKS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOING TO PROTECT YOU AND YOUR STATE!

"You know its one thing to say something slick on television in a ten second soundbite but we need action."  BAM, nailed it right there!

As for the militia idea, the national guard is supposed to fill that roll.  Really, the governor could declare a state of emergency in these counties and deploy the state national guard (and under the circumstances I'd say these counties definitely qualify as a state of emergency!).  Though maybe there is some law I don't know about that prevents this, not too sure on that. 

Hi Brokinarrow,

Our State does not have a true militia. It has been NATIONALIZED! I believe the county Sheriff needs to give direction in where the state militia needs to be deployed.

Ok, yes, but I wonder how much control of the national guard the Governor's actually have.  The way it's supposed to work (at least in my logical brain) is that the Guard can be used at the Governor's discretion to relief to emergency situations.  This way they don't have to wait for the Federal Government to make up it's mind on weather or not they should act.  But with all the reports of Obama making decisions on where/when to send the National Guard troops, I think was not/is no longer the case. 

And yes, the Governor should definitely be asking the local sherrifs where exactly the Guard troops are needed, as they would have the most knowledge of the area.

Hi Brokinarrow,

The Civilian Inmate program was introduced in 2005.

Army-

http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/Prep_For_Basic_Training/army_mos_information/internmentresettlement-sp.shtml

National Guard-

http://publicintelligence.net/internmentresettlement-specialist/

210-35-Civilian Inmate Labor Program

http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf

We can not trust the National Guard at this time. They are hiring Resettlement / Internment Specialist and with Army Regulation 210-35 they have everything in place to take the American citizens to Camps!  

"Sources of civilian inmate labor are limited to on– and off–post Federal corrections

facilities, State and/or local corrections facilities operating from on–post prison camps pursuant to leases under Section

2667, Title 10, United States Code (10 USC 2667), and off–post State corrections facilities participating in the

demonstration project authorized under Section 1065, Public Law (PL) 103–337. Otherwise, State and/or local inmate

labor from off–post corrections facilities is currently excluded from this program."

Let's not get too hasty here.  I read through this document and there is NOTHING about taking civilians prisoner to work in camps.  This basically just says that they are going to start using civilian prisoners (i.e. people that have already been convicted of actual crimes and are serving terms in prison) for labor on some of the Army bases. 

"a. Civilian inmate labor programs benefit both the Army and corrections systems by—

(1) Providing a source of labor at no direct labor cost to Army installations to accomplish tasks that would not be

possible otherwise due to the manning and funding constraints under which the Army operates.

(2) Providing meaningful work for inmates and, in some cases, additional space to alleviate overcrowding in nearby

corrections facilities.

(3) Making cost–effective use of buildings and land not otherwise being used."

Anyway, once again, this is way off topic.  The whole point of my previous post was to point out that the Governor should have power to use their National Guard forces to address any emergency situations within their own states.

Hi Brokinarrow;

What is a "Domestic Terrorist"?

"Domestic terrorism is defined as: Groups or individuals operating entirely inside the U.S. attempting to influence the US government or population to effect political or social change by engaging in criminal activity."

The following link; http://www.retakingamerica.com/fbi_flyer_01.html

will allow you to view an FBI "Domestic Terrorist" profile which was distributed in the state of Arizona in 2006. You may be surprised to see who could be possible suspects.    

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Yes, it says 'Right-wing EXTREMISTS', like those idiots in Ohio that were plotting to kill police officers.  I fully support arresting those types, because they ARE terrorists.  At any rate, I fail to see what you're trying to convince me of here.  Both of your last posts have had nothing to do with your original post.  The FBI is not arresting Tea Party members, the Army is not going to be arresting US citizens.

That being said, there ARE plenty of things I don't agree on with the way things are being run right now, but I'm not going to go out of my way to make things up.  You know what I want most of all?  To not HAVE to read and watch the news every day to make sure my rights aren't being eroded away.  I HATE reading about politics, I hate getting involved in politics, but I feel like if I don't start doing these things now, other people are going to start taking away my rights.  That's why I am here.

Hi Brokinarrow,

You have brought up some very valid points. I have found that in today’s world logic does not work in many circumstances. I feel this is one of those circumstances. From the surface everything seems to be in a logical perspective. The Patriot Act also seemed logical when it was brought into law. We had these supposed terrorist attacking our nation. Now the language in the legislation like the Patriot Act is being used against the American people in their stand to uphold their religious beliefs and in defending the Constitution of the United States as you have read in the 2006 FBI flyer. The American citizen is being profiled or to fit into a profile which will meet the criteria to become a “domestic terrorist”. This means just for being on this site you and I could be profiled as a “domestic terrorist” according to the FBI (a government agency).

The mainstream media is used to demonize the American citizen who believes in the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the freedoms which flow from the documents. Those who disagree with the governmental laws which are unconstitutional and violate are freedoms become suspect of being “domestic terrorist”.

As we watch our coastlines being contaminated with B.P. oil we must ask the question; After 63 days of oil spewing off our Eastern coast do you think the government has done all it could have to stop the spill? If American citizen were allowed to take part would the pipeline have already been capped off? I believe this oil spill will lead to more government control and a new carbon tax.

As the borders of Arizona and every other state in our Union I think the American citizen would put forth the effort to keep their own state a sovereign land. Why because they reside in that portion of land.

My whole point in posting this topic is to get people to look at what has been implemented and what laws are being introduced. Will every state have Federal land be a sancuary for whoever the government want to resettle in that state?

A terrible bill such as the McCain/Lieberman bill entitled; “Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010” S.3081. If legislation like this gets passed the American citizen would be put in prison without a trial for habeas corpus would be destroyed. The American citizen would go to a military prison and would be held without being charged with a crime or any kind of a trial. The guidelines are set in place for the government to turn logically sounding legislation and regulations into a nightmare for innocent American citizens.

Do you consider yourself a “RIGHT WING EXTREMIST” for being a defender of the U.S Constitution? Do you consider yourself being a member of a “HATE GROUP” for being identified as a Christian? Do you consider yourself a being a member of the “COMMOM LAW MOVEMENT” for making numerous references to the United Sates Constitution? The Federal Government has inverted our entire Constitution and society to fit its version of what freedoms are and what viewpoints the American citizen should have. As with the reference to the State of Arizona, who will occupy their land the illegal Mexican citizen or the American citizens.

I believe we as United States citizens need to defend our own land and keep our states sovereign from the hands of the Federal Government. We need to have discernment as not to what our government says but what they do! The government claims to want to secure our borders and has not. Who then is going to secure them? I for one am tired of the made up “Hope and Change” the transparency is obvious. The government does not have the best intensions for the American citizens. I ask you to look at the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto. Are these planks being implemented today in the United States? We are like the frog in the pot of warm water as the fire is turned up the water begins to boil and the frog is ready to eat. We today have the noose of the Federal Government tightening around our throats and we as the frog are being lead to our demise!